malvaxman (Stranger)
08-29-01 15:37
No 208425
      Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

Here are some interesting compounds which would be easy to turn to psykoactive compounds:

../rhodium/chemistry /yadontsay/index.html

Is it possible to remove the methoxy groups of apiole or myrstine without harming the rest of the molocule, and get safrole?
Has anyone yet tried to brominate eugenol and then aminate or methylaminate it? Would this compound be psykoactive?
I donīt think itīs writen anything about it i Phikaal...
If you take some ESTRAGOLE or CHAVICOL and take away the methoxygroup/hydroxy group you will get allylbenzen which could easy ge turned to Amphetamine or Meth!
What yeld is to be expected in a BOMB amination ,are there any survivors here to tell me about it  ..?laugh
 
 
 
 
    terbium
(Hive Addict)
08-29-01 20:22
No 208492
      Re: Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

Is it possible to remove the methoxy groups of apiole or myrstine without harming the rest of the molocule, and get safrole?
No. You can remove the methyl group to get a phenol but there is no way to get rid of the oxygen.

Has anyone yet tried to brominate eugenol and then aminate or methylaminate it? Would this compound be psykoactive?
The free phenol should make this inactive.
 
I donīt think itīs writen anything about it i Phikaal...
If you take some ESTRAGOLE or CHAVICOL and take away the methoxygroup/hydroxy group you will get allylbenzen which could easy ge turned to Amphetamine or Meth!

Again, there is no way to get rid of the hydroxy.
 
 
 
 
    Osmium
(Stoni's sexual toy)
08-29-01 21:20
No 208503
      Re: Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

Well, there ARE ways, but they are very involved, sometimes low-yielding, producing the wrong product, use strange, expensive or difficult to get chems, unsuitable reaction conditions for most bees, and so on.
One example is using potassium metal, I've seen an olivetol (THC precursor) synthesis where potassium ripped a MeO right off the benzene ring. But I don't know how general this reaction is.
 
 
 
 
    obituary
(Hive Addict)
08-29-01 22:33
No 208518
      Re: Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

how many distinctively different olivetol synths are there? (by general methods)
 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
08-30-01 04:21
No 208602
      Re: Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

Osmium: I believe that reaction only works for methoxies situated between two other methoxy groups according to the work of Ugo Azzena.

Obituary: For a collection of olivetol syntheses, look in ../rhodium/chemistry /psychedelicchemistry.txt and also in ../rhodium/chemistry /thc/index.html
 
 
 
 
    foxy2
(Hive Addict)
08-30-01 05:06
No 208614
      Re: Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

Obit
I have an interesting paper on synthing olivetol and other beginnings to THC analogs, tho it cannot produce some of the most interesting branched compounds to make the superduper THC.  I am almost certain the methodology is different from any of those in the THC review on Rhodium page. 
I post it when I have time.
I wish there was an easy way to pull text out of PDF files.

Foxy

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    wandering101
(Stranger)
08-31-01 06:24
No 208933
      Re: Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

From "Ya don't say": (Looks strange to see SWIM instead of Strike....)
[i]
MYRISTICIN: The grandaddy of the pshychedelic amphetamine genre (by the way, SWIM does not consider X to be a psychedelic). This sucker is in carrots, sassafras oil, in about 8% in nutmeg oil and (hold on to your hats) about 90% of the oil in ordinary parsley leaves. Yes, that same shit on your dinner plate.

OK, so (yes, I remember the whole thread on apiole) would anyone care to tell me what percentage (pref. by weight) of parsley leaves the oil is? Great if it's mostly oil, otherwise not.

Same thing for dill seed / parsley SEED oil - how much of a seed is OIL? I imagine there's a lot of plant matter in there...
 
 
 
 
    obituary
(Hive Addict)
08-31-01 13:22
No 209099
      Re: Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

actually parsley leaves and especially the seeds should both be high in oils- besides as cheap as parsley is (esp. if you tend a garden) how can you complain?!?!
 
 
 
 
    naturalblonde
(Stranger)
09-01-01 12:27
No 209321
      Re: Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

> I wish there was an easy way to pull text out of PDF files.

Get some good OCR software. I like OmniPage v11. It will take scanner input, GIFs, even PDF and plonk out raw text.

Many of the warez sites/newsgroups will have OmniPage.


 
 
 
 
    Osmium
(Stoni's sexual toy)
09-01-01 17:29
No 209384
      Re: Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

Let google do it for you. They reference and display even PDF files as regular text.
 
 
 
 
    CherrieBaby
(Newbee)
09-20-01 12:02
No 215673
      Re: Safrole from dill or persilia.  Bookmark   

Acrobat distiller - I think - saves to .RTF & text format but again - get it from a warez site.

OCR - download FineReader 5 from their site then get the crack on the net. It has a very large selection of languages - useful when OCRing foreign language texts - which can then be put into babelfish!!
 
 
 
 
    Peaktime
(Stranger)
01-28-03 15:00
No 402191
      Parsley leaf extraction  Bookmark   

is it true the parsley leaf oil contains about 90% myristin??
Does anyone knows a good way to extract the oil from the leaf??
 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
01-28-03 16:36
No 402217
      Unfortunately not that much  Bookmark   

The essential oil in the parsley fruits might sometimes reach such a high myristicin content, but the leaves contain much less, about 20-30% or so.

More information: http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=myristicin%20parsley

 
 
 
 
    PolytheneSam
(Master Searcher)
01-28-03 17:36
No 402222
      German parsley seed oil contains a lot of...  Bookmark   

German parsley seed oil contains a lot of myristicin according to a reference I have. 

http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF.html
The hardest thing to explain is the obvious