pornmaker (Stranger)
04-05-02 14:27
No 292807
      xylene in California  Bookmark   

SWIM says, "Here in California, Toluene is not available.  Xylene seems to bee the next logical choice for a non-polar.  I have looked at many stores and have found one product that lists as it's ingredience:  (it actually says "ingredient" implying a singular ingredient) Anyhoo, here is what it says: Aromatic solvent (and then on the next line) Xylene.  It also says: Maximum VOC: 874 grams/liter 7.3 pounds/gallon 100% by weight (whatever that is supposed to mean).  So my question is this:  Is this an acceptable non-polar solvent?  I assume the aromatic part means an additive for a more plesant odor has been mixed in with the xylene but am I posibally wrong on this?  I used it once and it worked fine, but then again my yeilds are a bit spotty as I am a new bee and have only a handfull of batches under my belt.  Seems to work just as well if not better than other more commonly found NP's such as lighter fluids and camp stove fuels I have tried.  Any advice or critism welcome.  Thank you.
 
 
 
 
    foxy2
(Distinctive Doe)
04-05-02 14:57
No 292814
      thats it  Bookmark   

That is xylene, industrial grade.
There are no additives, thats why it says 100%
Use it as is.  Dry before gassing.

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    utopium
(Stranger)
04-05-02 21:51
No 292935
      xy  Bookmark   

If any of you bees are worried about purity and other ingredients, you can walk into a paint store and ask for Xylene.  They will hand you a can that says in nice big letters XYLENE.

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    BooWho
(Stranger)
04-05-02 22:37
No 292961
      Keep looking...its there  Bookmark   

California DOES have Toulene avail to those who know where to look.
Swim is also familiar with Xylene and has used it with great success... but isn't Xylene a mix of Benzene and Toulene? Swim is relatively certain that it is.
Bee sure to wash any residues completely.

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    Elementary
(Hive Bee)
04-05-02 22:42
No 292963
      No  Bookmark   

Xylene is : C6H5.(CH3)2
Toluene is : C6H5.CH3
Benzene is : C6H6

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    pandemonium
(Hive Addict)
04-06-02 00:55
No 293011
      I hate the clock  Bookmark   

It is purely wonderful what can be accomplished in the way of breaking, and/or avoiding polymeric type bonds, but it isn't quick. One would have to bee very careful. Some say that if extremely cold and pure alcohols are present, that these cold solvents are much more selective. Of course one would have to find another solvent for a rinse phase before the pull, and would have to have all the rinse as well properly dried. Could be at that stage one might be able to tell how thoroughly polymers were removed by the degree of clumping in the mass when completely dry, but who knows.

Hard to get good pure RC aircraft fuel here these days, wish I had got a lot when it was easy.laugh

The difference between theory and practice is practice...
 
 
 
 
    kapen
(Newbee)
04-06-02 01:35
No 293025
      swiks heard...  Bookmark   

xylene and toluene are interchangeable for the most part as a non polar solvent. swik believes one has a higher boiling point so adjust accordingly on your synth. swik believes theres mentions of the substitution in some synths in the texts on rhodiums page.
-kap-

Just say know.