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3-smth-2,5-diMeO-phenethylamines (Shulgin in PiHKAL +ACM-160 says that +ADw-i+AD4AIg-...This 2,3,5-orientation of the methoxy groups on the aromatic ring is far and away the most difficult tri-substitution pattern known to chemists.+ACY-nbsp+ADs- There just isn't any simple way to put it together.+ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACI- +ADw-/i+AD4-- and in fact no such compound was ever bioassayed to an active level).+ADw-br+AD4APA-br+AD4-It's also remarkable 'cause the 1st stage of the chemistry is very neat - it is a hydroxymethylation - which usually gives very poor yields, but in this case (and, no doubt, also possible w/a variety of substituents) and w/some tricks, it is quite high-yielding. The methylation of the phenolic hydroxyl is performed w/out purification of the intermediate:+ADw-br+AD4APA-br+AD4APA-img src+AD0AIg-../picproxie+AF8-docs/000300201-file+AF8-fksu.gif+ACIAPgA8-br+AD4APA-br+AD4-Or the following variation (it's a well-known rxn, although a different variation than i've seen bee4 - what's its name, pray tell me?):+ADw-br+AD4APA-br+AD4APA-img src+AD0AIg-../picproxie+AF8-docs/000300201-file+AF8-3wyk.gif+ACIAPgA8-br+AD4APA-br+AD4APA-br+AD4-The benzyl alcohol can then bee oxidized to aldehyde w/SeO2 like this:+ADw-br+AD4APA-br+AD4APA-img src+AD0AIg-../picproxie+AF8-docs/000300201-file+AF8-fw8c.gif+ACIAPgA8-br+AD4APA-br+AD4-- but, well, i guess, we know some more appealing methods - like w/Fe(NO3)3,+ADw-br+AD4APA-br+AD4-or one can always directly make nitrile from it and reduce it to the PEA, as described in +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-../rhodium/chemistry /pea.benzyloh.html+ACI- target+AD0AIgBf-blank+ACI- title+AD0AIg-Jump to this external site+ACIAPg-../rhodium/chemistry /pea.ben+ADw-wbr+AD4-zyloh.ht+ADw-wbr+AD4-ml+ADw-/a+AD4APA-br+AD4APA-br+AD4APA-br+AD4-Antoncho+ADw-br+AD4APA-br+AD4APA-br+AD4-P.S. How does one prepare 2-something-4-MeO-phenol?+ADw-img src+AD0AIg-../picproxie+AF8-docs/000300201-file+AF8-vm0m.gif+ACIAPgA8-br+AD4-+ADw-br+AD4-P.P.S. How well a 'usually' oriented 3-something -4-MeO-phenol would beehave under the same conditions? 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2-OH-5-MeO-BA to the corresponding toluene immediately crossed my mind - but how such a reduction can bee effected? Is there an easy and one-stage way to do that at all?+ADw-br+AD4APA-br+AD4-Another possibility is to perform a Baudisch reaction on anisole - see +ADw-span title+AD0AIg-Jump to this post+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-../DUMMY+ACIAPg-Post 276654+ADw-/a+AD4- +ADw-i+AD4-(PrimoPyro: +ACI-Ephedrine To MDMA: Another Roundabout Possibility+ACI-, Chemistry Discourse)+ADw-/i+AD4APA-/span+AD4- for more details (but what direction the substitution will take place? Can anyone tell?), reduce the nitroso to amine and Sandmeyer it to a halide ro smth else. 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DOM has an affinity of 7.12+-0.07 and so the affinity of 2,5-dimeo-3-Me-A is more than 60 time less than DOM, even less active than mescaline (5.65+-0.10)+ACEAPA-br+AD4APA-br+AD4-Maybe the rat stomach fundus doesn't fully compare with human 5-HTP and these compound will show to be active or maybe they aren't at all. They may be active in some other way, non psychedelic one, but only human trial will tell us.+ADw-br+AD4APA-br+AD4-Anyway if someone is still interested for the experimental section I can scan it.+ADw-br+AD4APA-br+AD4APA-font color+AD0AIg-red+ACIAPgA8-b+AD4-Edit:+ADw-/b+AD4- The article has been posted in +ADw-span title+AD0AIg-Jump to this post+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-../serious/000449524.html+ACM-Post453729+ACIAPg-Post 453729+ADw-/a+AD4- +ADw-i+AD4-(Rhodium: +ACI-Phenylalkylamine Serotonin Receptor Affinities+ACI-, Serious Chemistry)+ADw-/i+AD4APA-/span+AD4- /Rhodium+ADw-/font color+AD0AIg-red+ACIAPg- +ADw-/td+AD4- +ADw-td+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/td+AD4- +ADw-/tr+AD4- +ADw-tr class+AD0AIg-text+AF8-bg+ACIAPg- +ADw-td align+AD0AIg-left+ACI- valign+AD0AIg-bottom+ACIAPgA8-img src+AD0AIg-../forum/images/left+AF8-bottom.gif+ACI- border+AD0AIg-0+ACI- height+AD0AIg-12+ACI- width+AD0AIg-9+ACIAPgA8-/td+AD4- +ADw-td valign+AD0AIg-middle+ACI- align+AD0AIg-center+ACI- colspan+AD0AIg-7+ACIAPgAm-nbsp+ADsAPA-/td+AD4- +ADw-td align+AD0AIg-right+ACI- valign+AD0AIg-bottom+ACIAPgA8-img src+AD0AIg-../forum/images/right+AF8-bottom.gif+ACI- border+AD0AIg-0+ACI- height+AD0AIg-12+ACI- width+AD0AIg-9+ACIAPgA8-/td+AD4- +ADw-/tr+AD4- +ADw-tr class+AD0AIg-page+AF8-bg+ACIAPg- +ADw-td colspan+AD0AIg-9+ACIAPgAm-nbsp+ADsAPA-/td+AD4- +ADw-/tr+AD4- +ADw-td align+AD0AIg-left+ACI- valign+AD0AIg-top+ACI- class+AD0AIg-text+AF8-bg+ACIAPg- +ADw-img src+AD0AIg-../forum/images/left+AF8-top.gif+ACI- border+AD0AIg-0+ACI- height+AD0AIg-12+ACI- width+AD0AIg-9+ACIAPgA8-/td+AD4- +ADw-td colspan+AD0AIg-7+ACIAPgA8-a name+AD0AIg-Post306684+ACIAPgA8-/a+AD4APA-/a+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/td+AD4- +ADw-td align+AD0AIg-right+ACI- valign+AD0AIg-top+ACIAPgA8-img src+AD0AIg-../forum/images/right+AF8-top.gif+ACI- border+AD0AIg-0+ACI- height+AD0AIg-12+ACI- width+AD0AIg-9+ACIAPgA8-/td+AD4- +ADw-/tr+AD4- +ADw-tr class+AD0AIg-text+AF8-bg+ACIAPg- +ADw-td rowspan+AD0AIg-2+ACIAPgAm-nbsp+ADsAPA-/td+AD4- +ADw-td rowspan+AD0AIg-2+ACIAPgAm-nbsp+ADsAPA-/td+AD4- +ADw-td valign+AD0AIg-top+ACI- align+AD0AIg-center+ACI- rowspan+AD0AIg-2+ACIAPg- yellium+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-i+AD4-(+ADw-span title+AD0AIg-The user's title at the time of posting+ACIAPg-Hive Addict+ADw-/span+AD4-)+ADw-/i+AD4-+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-span title+AD0AIg-Posting date+ACIAPg-05-09-02 13:47+ADw-/span+AD4APA-br+AD4- +ADw-span title+AD0AIg-Link to this post by using the markup +AFs-306684+AF0AIgA+-No 306684+ADw-/span+AD4APA-br+AD4- +ADw-/td+AD4- +ADw-td rowspan+AD0AIg-2+ACIAPgAm-nbsp+ADsAJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/td+AD4- +ADw-td rowspan+AD0AIg-2+ACI- width+AD0AIg-1+ACI- class+AD0AIg-vert+AF8-ruler+ACIAPg- +ADw-img src+AD0AIg-../forum/images/hr.gif+ACI- border+AD0AIg-0+ACI- width+AD0AIg-1+ACI- height+AD0AIg-1+ACIAPg- +ADw-/td+AD4- +ADw-td rowspan+AD0AIg-2+ACIAPgAm-nbsp+ADsAJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/td+AD4- +ADw-td class+AD0AIg-text+AF8-bg+ACI- align+AD0AIg-left+ACI- valign+AD0AIg-top+ACIAPg- +ADw-b title+AD0AIg-The subject of this post+ACIAPg-Affinities aren't everything.+ADw-/b+AD4- +ADw-/td+AD4- +ADw-td class+AD0AIg-text+AF8-bg+ACI- align+AD0AIg-right+ACI- valign+AD0AIg-top+ACIAPg- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAPA-a href+AD0AIg-https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat+AD0AJg-option+AD0-add+ACY-number+AD0-306684+ACY-Number+AD0-306684+ACY-page+AD0-21+ACY-view+AD0AJg-sort+AD0-5+ACY-part+AD0AJg-vc+AD0AJg-new+AD0AJg-backto+AD0-showflat+ACI- title+AD0AIg-Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area+ACIAPg-Bookmark+ADw-/a+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-/td+AD4- +ADw-td+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/td+AD4- +ADw-/tr+AD4- +ADw-tr class+AD0AIg-text+AF8-bg+ACIAPg- +ADw-td colspan+AD0AIg-2+ACI- valign+AD0AIg-top+ACI- align+AD0AIg-left+ACIAPg- +ADw-br+AD4- Affinities aren't everything. There's a JMC article where a number of 2,5-dimeo-4-alkyl-amphetamines (could also be phenethylamines) are compared, and after the alkyl chain is longer than 4 carbon atoms, affinities are more or less the same. Which is not in agreement with biological data. 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