alchemy_bee (Hive Bee)
05-01-02 16:31
No 303783
      Sources for LiI  Bookmark   

What is a good source for LiI? Can it be purchased without suspision? Also what about extracting it from batteries? there are a few posts on this topic but it dosnt get into great detail.

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    Elementary
(Hive Addict)
05-01-02 16:49
No 303790
      LiI ??? What are you after Lithium metal ?  Bookmark   

LiI ???

What are you after Lithium metal or Lithium Iodide ?

If you talking about Lithium metal, then this has been documented many times.

Check out these write-ups

../rhodium/chemistry /birch.mrclean.html
../rhodium/chemistry /birch.pseudo.html

If it is Lithium Iodide you want, well this could be made with lithium carbonate (potters supplys) and Hydriodic acid.




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    alchemy_bee
(Hive Bee)
05-01-02 17:27
No 303802
      Nope lithium iodide is what is needed.  Bookmark   

Nope lithium iodide is what is needed. thanks for the suggestion.

Can a bee be visa vis its entity when half a bee philosophically must ipso facto half not be?
 
 
 
 
    Elementary
(Hive Addict)
05-05-02 02:30
No 305028
      Iodide Information  Bookmark   

http://albumen.stanford.edu/library/monographs/sunbeam/chap10.html

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    PolytheneSam
(Master Searcher)
05-05-02 02:34
No 305030
      UTFSE  Bookmark   

Post 228375 (Ritter: "Re: Ketones from Propenylbenzenes via the di-bromides", Novel Discourse)

http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF.html
The hardest thing to explain is the obvious
 
 
 
 
    alchemy_bee
(Hive Bee)
05-06-02 13:37
No 305380
      Enter RTFTT (Read the fuckin thread title).  Bookmark   

Enter RTFTT (Read the fuckin thread title). Looking for OTC sources not preperations.

Can a bee be visa vis its entity when half a bee philosophically must ipso facto half not be?
 
 
 
 
    alchemy_bee
(Hive Bee)
05-31-02 22:12
No 316394
      lithium carbonate is easy to get, when attempting ...  Bookmark   

lithium carbonate is easy to get, when attempting to convert this to LiI, can another source of Iodine (this is not watched) be used other than HI?

Post 51160 (obituary: "MeI  methods", Chemistry Discourse) details a few routes to MeI:



1.  MeSO4 + KI --> MeI
3.  electrolysis of an aq. solution of K acetate w/ I2 or KI
...




#3 sounds really good, is there a variation that can be adapted were LiI can be produced - and from perhaps Li-acetate (any other suggests here) and a Iodine salt that is easy to get?



 
 
 
 
    PolytheneSam
(Master Searcher)
06-01-02 00:29
No 316431
      If you prepare LiI yourself you are your own ...  Bookmark   

If you prepare LiI yourself you are your own source. tongue

http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF.html
The hardest thing to explain is the obvious
 
 
 
 
    Osmium
(Stoni's sexual toy)
06-01-02 01:04
No 316438
      It has to be anhydrous, so you better have some ...  Bookmark   

It has to be anhydrous, so you better have some P2O5 lying around or else...

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    alchemy_bee
(Hive Bee)
06-01-02 01:20
No 316446
      PolytheneSam: Id argue that you wouldnt be the ...  Bookmark   

PolytheneSam: Id argue that you wouldnt be the source in this instance, perhaps the means by which the source is... ah never mind i dont feel like bull shitting hehehe... Well at least i dont randomly post pics of dildows Post No 314984!    

Point taken though, since the thread didnt get any takes, i decided to look to easy OTC synths.

Osmium: Can you describe drying LiI? Also how stable is this compound to heat? I found this online:



Colour: white
Appearance: crystalline solid
[red]Melting point: 73C (dehydrates; loses 2H2O at 80C; loses H2O at 300C)[red]
Boiling point:
Density: 3480 kg m-3




Obviously im asking that if it can be heated to 300 without breaking the compound down...



 
 
 
 
    alchemy_bee
(Hive Bee)
06-12-02 05:53
No 320036
      Does anyone know how hot LiI can be heated to ...  Bookmark   

Does anyone know how hot LiI can be heated to before it starts to break down? Im trying to turn the tri-hydrate into the dehydrated form. In the above article it says that when heated to 300 it looses all water. The MSDS sheet for this material says it relises I2 vapor when heated, but does not specify at what temp. Is heating to 300 a viable method to dehydrate this compound?
 
 
 
 
    Osmium
(Stoni's sexual toy)
06-12-02 10:14
No 320121
      Not sure, it might work when there's no O2 ...  Bookmark   

Not sure, it might work when there's no O2 around.
But I'd rather use a desiccator and an efficient drying agent.

I'm not fat just horizontally disproportionate.
 
 
 
 
    PrimoPyro
(Hive Prodigy)
06-12-02 11:44
No 320144
      What about phthalic anhydride?  Bookmark   

What about phthalic anhydride?
 
 
 
 
    Osmium
(Stoni's sexual toy)
06-12-02 11:52
No 320148
      ?  Bookmark   

?

I'm not fat just horizontally disproportionate.
 
 
 
 
    PrimoPyro
(Hive Prodigy)
06-12-02 12:02
No 320156
      As a dehydrating agent, as a substitute for ...  Bookmark   

As a dehydrating agent, as a substitute for phosphoric anhydride.

It is cheaper and more available for some of us. I know it is a powerful dehydrating agent, and I am asking if you know if it will work in this case?
 
 
 
 
    Osmium
(Stoni's sexual toy)
06-12-02 12:50
No 320186
      Never heard of it being used as a drying agent.  Bookmark   

Never heard of it being used as a drying agent. I don't think it will work very well.

I'm not fat just horizontally disproportionate.
 
 
 
 
    PrimoPyro
(Hive Prodigy)
06-12-02 13:23
No 320192
      ???  Bookmark   

Its cited all over the Hive in the old posts! crazy

Ive seen it online too. Its a really powerful water scavenging molecule reacting to make phthalic acid, AFAIK. Now Im confused.
 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
06-12-02 13:40
No 320194
      I've only seen Phtalic anhydride as a drying ...  Bookmark   

I've only seen Phtalic anhydride as a drying agent in melt-phase and possibly in solution. Never in a dessiccator-type situation.
 
 
 
 
    alchemy_bee
(Hive Bee)
06-14-02 04:09
No 320979
      LiI would be easy to prepare into its ...  Bookmark   

LiI would be easy to prepare into its mono-hydrate form, would this be acceptable for isomerizing epoxides into ketones?

If it would be at all practically possible to prepare into its dehydrated form would it be better to do so by desicating or by heating?

Since ChemFinder gives its melting point at 446 I would assume that it would be practically applicable to heat it i to 300. It would be easy to heat is to 300 under an stream a dry nitrogen, if this is doable also, please adivise.


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    Osmium
(Stoni's sexual toy)
06-14-02 11:01
No 321126
      > Since ChemFinder gives its melting point at ...  Bookmark   

> Since ChemFinder gives its melting point at 446 I would
> assume that it would be practically applicable to heat it
> i to 300. It would be easy to heat is to 300 under an
> stream a dry nitrogen, if this is doable also, please
> advise.

Desiccating sounds much easier and cheaper than that.

I'm not fat just horizontally disproportionate.
 
 
 
 
    alchemy_bee
(Hive Bee)
06-14-02 21:54
No 321346
      Well i dunno about cheaper.  Bookmark   

Well i dunno about cheaper. SWIM has huge tanks of medical grade N2 that she has never had a use for, and the glassware needed wouldnt be any more than what one would use for a distillation setup; a heating flask, inlet and trap. Else wise SWIM would have to buy a desicating cabinet and more chems?

What would be the desicating chem of choice though?

I dont take drugs to be happy...
I do because they remind me that I am happy
 
 
 
 
    terbium
(Old P2P Cook)
06-14-02 23:41
No 321368
      Medical grade nitrogen?  Bookmark   

SWIM has huge tanks of medical grade N2 that she has never had a use for,
Tanks of medical grade N2 eh? 
 
 
 
 
    alchemy_bee
(Hive Bee)
06-15-02 01:27
No 321414
      huh?
(Rated as: bitching)
 Bookmark   

Yes blue tanks of ACS grade N2 that was purchased from a gas company specializing medical gas supply. Did you have somthing to add to my thread Terb, otherwise Alchemy_bee rates your post as INSIGNIFICANT.

I dont take drugs to be happy...
I do because they remind me that I am happy
 
 
 
 
    alchemy_bee
(Hive Bee)
06-15-02 02:16
No 321427
      :-D LoL, sorry i just havnt had my daily dose of ...  Bookmark   

laugh LoL, sorry i just havnt had my daily dose of medical N2 yet. tonguetonguetonguetongue

I dont take drugs to be happy...
I do because they remind me that I am happy
 
 
 
 
    PrimoPyro
(Hive Prodigy)
06-15-02 04:16
No 321480
      I think you might mean N2O........  Bookmark   

I think you might mean N2O........

If so, this is precisely what terbium was subtly referring to. From your response, my guess would be that you have N2 confused with N2O. But I dont know....
 
 
 
 
    alchemy_bee
(Hive Bee)
06-15-02 07:11
No 321538
      No its deffinatly N2 that i was refering to, ...  Bookmark   

No its deffinatly N2 that i was refering to, although the same place is a great source for N20 as well. Either way it would still be very easy to heat LiI to 300 under an innert stream of gas, im still trying to asses if this is a vaible way to obtain the dyhydrated form of LiI.

Desication may very well be the way to go, what desicating agent should be used and what should the setup be like (I have never desicated anything)?

I dont take drugs to be happy...
I do because they remind me that I am happy