Elementary (Hive Addict)
05-29-02 02:21
No 315366
      Benzoyl Peroxide, a clandestine view  Bookmark   

My theory is that most chemicals with a single arm coming from a benzene ring have got to be able to be used or converted into something helpfull to the clandestine chemist.

Ummmm........Benzoyl Peroxide..........easily available smile



I read couple of threads about possibly turning this into something more exciting, but none of them where conclusive.

Can anybees give me some input ?

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    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
05-29-02 03:55
No 315420
      Peroxide-Catalyzed Chlorination of Toluene ...  Bookmark   

Peroxide-Catalyzed Chlorination of Toluene

../rhodium/chemistry /benzylchloride.html
 
 
 
 
    Elementary
(Hive Addict)
05-29-02 04:04
No 315424
      Yes, but then again it would be easier just to ...  Bookmark   

Yes, but then again it would be easier just to bubble chlorine into toluene in sunlight (UV) to obtain benzyl chloride.

Swim would like to experiement with reducing the stuff but swim is cautious because Merck states it as explosive on heating

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    terbium
(Old P2P Cook)
05-29-02 08:12
No 315509
      Danger.  Bookmark   

Hopefully your questions are purely theoretical. You shouldn't be messing with pure benzoyl peroxide unless you are aware of the dangers of organic peroxides.

Anyway, there is nothing interesting to be made with benzoyl peroxide.
 
 
 
 
    Bwiti
(PVC-Analog Taste-Tester)
05-29-02 19:00
No 315645
      Sulfuryl Chloride?  Bookmark   

"Peroxide-Catalyzed Chlorination of Toluene"

  Sulfuryl chloride is needed in the above synth to produce benzyl chloride. How common is sulfuryl chloride? Isn't that watched? 

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    psychokitty
()
05-29-02 19:59
No 315663
      TCICA and others  Bookmark   

TCICA and others like the chloro and bromo dimethylhydantoins are probably easier to obtain and to handle and should work equally fine in chlorinating a methyl benzene into a chloro benzene.  The literature seems to imply though that this reaction does not take place in absence of a peroxide.  The concentration of benzoyl peroxide in acne medications probably is not worth the trouble of isolating it from such OTC sources.  Does anybee know if it is available OTC in larger quantities?
 
 
 
 
    hermanroempp
(Stranger)
05-29-02 20:20
No 315676
      OTC benzoyl peroxide  Bookmark   

...is available as a "hardener" for those synthetic resin fillers made from acrylates or methacrylates. It comes in the form of a paste or powder (preferred wink ),mixed with desensitizers (don't know which chemical acts as a desensitizer and I'm too lazy now to look it up) and some other stuff perhaps.
It's easy to find in a hobby or hardware shop, I'm looking at a plastic bottle of that stuff right now...tongue

Quidquid agis, prudenter agas et respice finem!
 
 
 
 
    Elementary
(Hive Addict)
05-29-02 20:34
No 315679
      Mixed With Water  Bookmark   

It is normally sold mixed with water.

See here :

http://www.kemi.se/kemamne_eng/dibenzoylp_eng.htm

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    hermanroempp
(Stranger)
05-29-02 20:55
No 315691
      Re: It is normally sold mixed with water The lab ...  Bookmark   


It is normally sold mixed with water




The lab grade form, yes, contains about 20% water as a desensitizer. But not the OTC variant from the hobby shop, it's perfectly dry, prilled stuff...must be something different in it!


Quidquid agis, prudenter agas et respice finem!
 
 
 
 
    Elementary
(Hive Addict)
05-30-02 15:49
No 315925
      Free Radicals  Bookmark   

It's a shame advantage can't be taken of those free radicals upon its decomposition.





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    cheeseboy
(I'm not Cheesie)
05-31-02 12:24
No 316250
      uh yuh  Bookmark   

Lemme guess, now that you're 18 (you must be at least 18 or you wouldn't be on the hive, right?) you've become a man and left puberty behind along with a shit load (drum full) of zit kill solution (benzoyl peroxide). Dems blowd up real good! POP!!

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    PrimoPyro
(Hive Prodigy)
05-31-02 13:36
No 316262
      Cheese: Maybe it's just me, because right now Im ...  Bookmark   

Cheese: Maybe it's just me, because right now Im extremely tired and my mind is dull; but was that a joke? Elementary is a really smart man, not any boy.

If it was a joke, sorry again, Im just kinda slow right now, just trying to get my last Hive Fix before I crash in bed for the day.

                                                   PrimoPyro
 
 
 
 
    Bwiti
(PVC-Analog Taste-Tester)
05-31-02 15:24
No 316284
      I'm pretty sure that cheese was just joking.  Bookmark   

  I'm pretty sure that cheese was just joking. I'm in my mid-twenties and I still get zits sometimes from staying-up late and being stressed-out.tongue

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    cheeseboy
(I'm not Cheesie)
06-01-02 23:49
No 316751
      Joke?  Bookmark   

Cheese NEVER jokes about that, cheese takes pimples/warts/korns/blemishes very seriously. The day cheese STOPS getting pimples is the day cheese starts eating right and bathing once every so often. Can you say "little pimply faced kid who happens to be in his 30's"? SPLAT!!!#@%&*$%#@!+_)*%*&$ Hope you rested well Primo one.

Bubba Fatt - LA's Biggest Bounty Hunter. His subjects are at large and so is HE!