(Chief Bee)
08-11-02 17:02
No 344380
      Removing MSM from Methamphetamine
(Rated as: excellent)

The Use of Heat to Eliminate Dimethyl Sulfone from Amphetamine and Methamphetamine Hydrochloride
MICROGRAM; 1999; V32 (1); January; P10

It is frequently the case that samples of methamphetamine hydrochloride or amphetamine hydrochloride are mixed exclusively with dimethyl sulphone. In order to isolate the controlled substances from the dimethyl sulphone, therefore, the sample was heated in a convection oven for 10 minutes at a temperature of 115°C. As the sample was heated, the dimethyl sulphone sublimated, leaving behind the methamphetamine hydrochloride or amphetamine hydrochloride. If this process does not work, then heating the sample for a further 10 minutes should solve the problem.
(Hive Addict)
08-11-02 21:24
No 344421

As the sample was heated, the dimethyl sulphone sublimated

Could some more info be explained as to what the MSM sublimates to? Just trying to understand ware it goes to?
Peaceof the reaction

Everything Ibee says should be taken with a Large Grain of Sympathomimetic Amine Salt
(Chief Bee)
08-11-02 22:28
No 344443
      It evaporates, and then crystallizes on the ...     

It evaporates, and then crystallizes on the nearest surface having a temperature of 100°C or below.
(Distinctive Doe)
08-11-02 22:28
No 344444

That just means it evaporates.

It will then deposit on a cool surface or condese like snow as the vapor cools.

Its the same principle as what happens inside your jar of iodine.  Ever notice the crystals forming on the cap? wink

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08-12-02 02:57
No 344492
      any reason to do this?     

is msm dangerous?
08-12-02 05:26
No 344529
      While MSM is in fact a healthy suppliment for ...     

While MSM is in fact a healthy suppliment for many, it unfortunately shortens the duration of the meth high quite substantially and is a poor choice of additive in all but appearance.

Regards, Hematite.
(Distinctive Doe)
08-12-02 05:37
No 344533
      if your snorting or eating it, then i can see no ...     

if your snorting or eating it, then i can see no reason.

MSM is supposed to bee good for your joints.  Its marketed as a supplement.  Google will tell you. UAFSE tongue

Smoking it is probably bad?  Well burning it anyways, if your careful to vaporize it without burning then its probably fine. 

Beez who know, does this taste like shit when smoked?
Ie rotten egg, phosphorus smell?  I would think it would?

Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety
08-12-02 11:47
No 344589
      I think it tastes pretty disgusting.     

I think it tastes pretty disgusting. Also, it leaves a nasty brown residue on the glass!
(Line Monitor)
08-12-02 14:27
No 344607
      The main reason for..     

I used to wonder why folks would blow out the first hit. To me it has no taste to speak of. A good way to tell if you have MSM in your gear is when you take a big first hit you won't blow out much smoke if any.

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(Chief Bee)
08-12-02 16:02
No 344622
      Sublimation of Dimethyl Sulphone
(Rated as: excellent)

MICROGRAM; 1998; V31 (11); November; P308-309

Sublimation is the name given to the process by which a solid transforms directly to a gas, with no liquid stage. Sublimation is a useful purification and separation method because few compounds sublime to any significant degree. If one compound that does sublime is found in a mixture of other compounds that do not sublime, therefore, separation is easy and clean.This paper describes the use of sublimation for the purification of dimethyl sulphone from a mixture of dimethyl sulphone and methamphetamine hydrochloride. The method used does not require solvents or test tubes and requires very little chemist time.
(Hive Addict)
08-13-02 00:21
No 344749
      Ubee the BEEST!     

That explains it! Answers abound when the questions are placed the correct way. Ibees learning! Give`em a BRAKE!(He'll take your whole CAR!)Just fudgin!wink oarami?

Thanx Rhodium! Keep rockin dewd!

Everything Ibee says should be taken with a Large Grain of Sympathomimetic Amine Salt
(Hive Bee)
08-13-02 11:23
No 345022
      i was curious     

Is this a listed inactive on psudos? if not just bake to bee safe?
To date my theorizing on various equations concerning meth-like compounds have been showing an incorrect valance balance thus the lab monkees are moving rather slow....

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(Distinctive Doe)
08-13-02 22:11
No 345118

MSM is a very common cut for street speed

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(Hive Bee)
08-13-02 23:18
No 345134

thank you foxy. Reckon it was getting late there. Sorry for any confusion, my own was the obvious though.

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(Hive Addict)
08-14-02 01:33
No 345167
      regarding negative effects     

If it generates acidic conditions then it would interfere
with the strength or duration of the effects.

Similar, I would presume, to ammonium chloride, which is a system acidifier, and which also sublimes, but apparently
more cleanly, as it leaves no trace....

(Line Monitor)
08-14-02 16:43
No 345349
      specific gravity     

How about a good ol battery hydrometer?   Just a shot in the dark.

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(Ancient Alchemist Delux)
01-24-03 23:52
No 401206

Properties:  Crystals, mp 109degrees . bp 760 238degrees . Sublimes at 13 mm and 90degrees to 100degrees. Infrared absorption (solid) 7600-8700 nm. Di pole mo ment 4.44 (vapor). Freely sol in water, methanol, etha nol, acetone. Sparingly sol in ethe..

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(Exotic Beauty)
01-27-03 05:44
No 401790
      another way to detect msm     

take a small sample of the stuff you got because of your sabbatical...ah, nevermind...and melt it in cool water. wait a few seconds. if there is msm in it, the msm material will show up as long shards but will not dissolve. however, keep in mind that it will dissolve in very warm water. it will return to shards only when the water cools. it is not something i would use even if everyone says it is safe. yuck.

the subliming technique offered by rhodium works very well according to the benefactor of my disgust with the stuff.

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(Chief Bee)
04-04-03 13:46
No 423850
      DEA verifies MSM/Meth co-crystallization     

Unusual “Ice” Methamphetamine Exhibits in Stow, Ohio

(DEA, March 2003) The DEA North Central Laboratory (Chicago, Illinois) recently analyzed two unusual methamphetamine exhibits submitted by the DEA Cleveland Resident Office. The exhibits were obtained in Stow, Ohio via an undercover purchase, and had the appearance of “ICE” (1/4 inch long white crystals). The first had a net mass of 7.0 grams and was packaged in a single, clear zip-lock plastic bag, while the second had a net mass of 3.2 grams and was packaged in 14 small zip-lock plastic bags all contained within a larger zip-lock plastic bag. Analysis by GC, GC/MS, and FT-IR, however, indicated not high purity methamphetamine but rather a mixture of methamphetamine and dimethylsulfone. The first exhibit contained only 34% d-methamphetamine hydrochloride, while the second contained only 25% d-methamphetamine hydrochloride.
(Hive Bee)
04-06-03 09:06
No 424272

DEA was wondering why the dope they been pocketing wasn't keeping them awake on stake-outs.

When Freud studied Darwinism, it brought about the evolution of the wet dream...
(Ancient Alchemist Delux)
04-08-03 05:34
No 424663
      Why not just a wash     

Why wouldn't just a wash with dry acetone and filter. Seems easer and effective....

As far as chemistry taking place for shorting a buzz, What happens is the MSM helps your body do its thing better... It's thing is getting rid of foreign substances like meth. It helps your body clean itself better.. MsM used to be part of our diet before food processing got ramped.. It is elusive to food processing, even over cooking veges will move it away from our pallet.... It starts out being evaped from oceans and as it gets into the atmosphere uv rays turn it into Methyl solfonel methane and it is carried by rain back into our food supply.. In the old days our body's got its natural supply this way but today it is lacking in our diets... If one was wanting to quit using meth I would recommend two heaping teaspoons a day in OJ, once in the morning and again in the after noon for a week then back down to one table spoon a day... You will be surprised that after a week your tossing and turing in bed at night instead of the typical no ambition feeling one gets without his gogo.. It is in health food stores but is not pure and is expensive, 1000mg pill usually has mag. sulfate or another preservative and or vitamin C added to it. The best place to get it is at your feed and seed stores because 2.2 lbs is around 14 bucks US and it's 99.9% pure, comes in a jar instead of jell caps... Horses get better shit than humans do because they cost more..

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(Employee Supervisor)
04-08-03 23:26
No 424850

these same folks aren't willing to pay for straight GOGO.
You MUST be kidding...right?

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(Ancient Alchemist Delux)
04-09-03 03:09
No 424925

What the fuck are you talking about??? Make your point so one can reply directly instead of guessing what your smart-ass comments mean and wasting thread space in the process.

Tighten Up

The end result is directly connected to the effort applied
06-25-03 20:47
No 442501

if you have msm in your dope you can smell it.take some msm and dope put it in a pill bottle for about 20 ,minutes youll see what i mean and the smell never does go away.drop a little on foil melt it it smells while burning but has no tatse and burns real clean no residual left behind.alot of people are starting to use horse msm available at vet supply companys,am told its a prefered cut.

               Meth Its whats for dinner!
06-19-04 03:22
No 514222
      MSM Sublimation Question     

Do I have to crush down my meth/MSM crystals to powder form for this procedure to work properly?

Thanks! wink
06-22-04 00:30
No 514674
      anudder way..     

Dissolve in alcohol.

Mix in xylene.

Heat to 115 C.