neuromodulator (Hive Bee)
08-16-02 02:45
No 345827
      West Wind, Fly With Me...  Bookmark   

Since all the old ideas have long since been outlawed, I've decided it's high time to introduce some fresh air (guano?)  into our arid, cooped-up, quite frankly BORING stratosphere.

M&M's candy (i.e., 4-ethoxy-2,5-dimethoxy-am-PEA) has been around for a while now, and it has been outlawed for a while, too.  In fact, I've never even tasted it!

But what about 4-EtO-3-MeO-a(e/m)-PEA and its long lost N-methyl and N-ethyl cousins?

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An Outline of this Stare Way to Some Where:

O-ethylation of USP vanillin.
Condensation with NO2-n-Pr or NO2-ethane with a little NH4OAc catalyst.
Followed by reduction with Raney Ni (5 cents?) and H2 (g).


Those 2 long lost cousins will of course take more than three steps to find from this outline, but I guess I'll just leave it to PrimoPyro (cleaver?) to 'count' the steps for me!

By The Way...

Was that 3 steps or did I count 'wrong' again, PP?
(Hive Prodigy)
08-16-02 02:59
No 345834
      Hey, chill out  Bookmark   

I asked in that post not as criticism, but because I was curious if I was missing something. I figured you would reply and I would be like, "Oh, yeah I forgot about that."

And the more I looked at it, the harder it became to search for a fifth step. It was not meant as criticism.

08-16-02 17:50
No 345990
      catalytic hydrogenation doesn't work  Bookmark   

In general catalytic hydrogenation doesn't work for nitropropenes (but it does work for nitroethenes).
08-17-02 00:43
No 346071
      Lithium Aluminum Hydride  Bookmark   

LiAlH4 still works; does it not?
I wonder if somebody broke it again?
[broken record noises from here to infinity]

A Post Script

Nm said, "West Wind, Fly With Me," not "Ride the Heifer."