AdrenoMage (Stranger)
09-10-02 14:21
No 354995
      Eticyclidine info  Bookmark   

Can anyone give me a bit of info as to exactly what Eticyclidine is? I've found it listed as a disassociative, yet I've been able to compile little to no info on it other then its on pretty much every illicit chemical list and theres a synthesis on Rhodium. Is it in anyway similiar to MK-801?

                                        Thanks,
                                       AdrenoMage
 
 
 
 
    Cyrax
(Hive Bee)
09-10-02 15:25
No 355026
      I only know that the fumes are more caustic than ...  Bookmark   

I only know that the fumes of PCE freebase are much too caustic, so smoking it would certainly be not advisable.  This in contrast with the menthol flavor of PCP fumes.

For the pharmaceutical formulation and synthesis of PCP & its analogs, cfr. US patent 3,097,136
 
 
 
 
    Bwiti
(PVC-Analog Taste-Tester)
09-11-02 20:12
No 355495
      http://gb.espacenet.com/ is giving me that "error ...  Bookmark   

  http://gb.espacenet.com/ is giving me that "error on page" shit. Know of any other free patent databases?
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  Update: Found it here; http://patimg1.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=5&docid=US003097136&IDKey=B812BCCB6877&HomeUrl=http%3A%2F%2F164.195.100.11%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO1%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526d%3DPALL%2526p%3D1%2526u%3D%2Fnetahtml%2Fsrchnum.htm%2526r%3D1%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526s1%3D%273097136%27.WKU.%2526OS%3DPN%2F3097136%2526RS%3DPN%2F3097136

  The only example that uses magnesium is 'B'.

"Is it in anyway similiar to MK-801?"

  I've never sampled MK-801, so I can't compare, but I've shot and smoked eticyclidine(PCE). It's just like ketamine, only it's more euphoric and powerful.
 
 
 
 
    Cyrax
(Hive Bee)
09-14-02 17:44
No 356382
      Post 165124 confirms that PCE in not nearly as ...  Bookmark   

Post 165124 (beagle boy: "PCP Synthesis", Chemistry Discourse) confirms that PCE in not nearly as good as PCP.

So, take a little piece of advice from me: don't make it.
Besides, EtNH2 is a quite volatile amine (B.P.: 17 C).  Yukk !!!

See you can get / make piperidine and go for PCP instead.