Bandil (Hive Bee)
12-08-02 03:20
No 387416
      alpha-methyl-4-hydroxy-tryptamine evaluation  Bookmark   


I am usually quite fond of alpha-methylated compounds. In tryptamines or PEA's, they are all nice :)

Psilocybin/psilocin has also always been a very special molecule to me. I have UTFSE and has not found anything about alpha methylated 4-HO tryptamines?

How come shulgin tested the really -far out- 4-HO tryptamines such as 4-HO-DBT, but never looked into a-M-4-HO-tryptamine? Has it been testen on animal models and proved inactive? It sure would seem odd if it proved to be inactive...

Anyone here have an opinion on the -supposed- super-shroom compound?

(Hive Bee)
12-08-02 04:02
No 387424
      I havenīt seen anything about 4-OH- alpha ...  Bookmark   

I havenīt seen anything about 4-OH-alpha-methyltryptamine or its analogs. Shulgin is just one man. He cannot do everything for us. Why donīt you start a scientific project of your own. Make them and taste them! Iīm sure the rest of us here would love to read about it, as well as Shulgin.

Catalytic hydrogenation freak
12-08-02 08:33
No 387474
      I can't remember where I read about it, but I ...  Bookmark   

I can't remember where I read about it, but I did. And it didn't look very interesting. Maybe it was just binding data.
12-24-02 14:02
No 392540
      re:  Bookmark   

This is just my opinion but considering that AMT and 5-MeO-AMT have seriously annoying side effects and last way to long, will 4-OH-AMT be any different. After all, 4-OH-DMT is based on DMT, an excellent molecule in itself... but really, should we waste our time exploring AMT derivatives? I guess it would be a fun project for the bee with time on his hands...
(Hive Bee)
12-25-02 03:09
No 392678
      If 4-OH-AMT is anything like AMT and/or DMT i ...  Bookmark   

If 4-OH-AMT is anything like AMT and/or DMT i would love it. I really like the "harshness" of AMT/5-meo-AMT... Actually both compounds are on my top 3 list :)

Different people - Different taste :)
(Hive Bee / Eraser)
01-13-03 18:19
No 397944
      Shulgin Did Evaluate 4-HO-aMT  Bookmark   

I checked the index, and 4-HO-aMT is hidden on page 569 of TiHKAL (under the aMT entry)... towards the top of the page:

"Markedly visual in effects, with some subjects reporting dizziness and a depressed feeling.  There were, however, several toxic signs at doses of 15-20 mg orally, including abdominal pain, tachycardia, increased blood pressure, and with several people, headache and diarrhea."

stop, drop & roll