El_Zorro (Hive Addict)
02-15-03 17:47
No 408342
      Gold refining?  Bookmark   

Does anyone have any info, links to information on refining gold ad platinum with aqua regia?  I have a pretty good idea of the overall process, but I don't have the fine details down.  I know that the gold, platinum, etc. is dissolved in the aqua regia, then all junk pieces are removed.  Then various chems are added to precipitate the various metals.  I know that ammonium chloride is added to precipitate the platinum as ammonium chloroplatinate, and apparently sodium/potassium metabisulfite is added to precipitate the gold.  But I also saw somewhere the urea is added before the metabisulfite in the gold extraction process, does anyone have any more details than that?  And what is used to precipitate palladium?

It is seductive, way too seductive.             -Eleusis
(Hive Bee)
02-15-03 22:49
No 408460
      Palladium & Aqua Regia  Bookmark   

Doesn't Palladium and Aqua Regia make Palladium Chloride?
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(Hive Bee)
02-15-03 22:53
No 408462
      Chloroplatinic acid  Bookmark   

Also, I once heard that reacting Platinum and Aqua Regia in a similar fashion as the PDCL2 synth. would get you Chloroplatinic Acid.
02-16-03 07:00
No 408567
      here you go...  Bookmark   

I hope this helps, there seems to be a bunch of proprietary supplies involved, but it'll work.
(Master Searcher)
02-16-03 09:06
No 408587
      Palladium will dissolve in nitric acid.  Bookmark   

Palladium will dissolve in nitric acid.

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(Hive Addict)
02-16-03 13:40
No 408665
      Yeah, if you chunk a bunch of old computer...  Bookmark   

Yeah, if you chunk a bunch of old computer contacts and parts in aqua regia, then all of the gold, platinum, and palladium will go into solution.  If you add a conc. solution of ammonium chloride, then it will react with the formed chloroplatinic acid to precipitate as ammonium chloroplatinate, which can be used to make platinum dioxide, which is an extremely efficient hydrogenation catalyst.  If you add some other chems, the gold precipitates as a nice little legal profit for you.  The palladium will form palladium chloride, which we all know what that can do.  I'm not sure how to precipitate it from the solution to get a reasonably pure product, but I'm sure it can be done.

I'll check out that link, though, thanks.

It is seductive, way too seductive.             -Eleusis
(Hive Addict)
02-19-03 13:03
No 409842
      Well, I did find out some shit about it.  Bookmark   

Well, I did find out some shit about it.

So you dissolve everything in your aqua regia.  Then you add urea, which neutralizes the nitric acid without neutralizing the HCl, which keeps everything in solution.  Then you add your ammonium chloride, and see if you have any platinum.  Then you add some sodium metabisulfite, and your gold precipitates.  Then you add some sodium chlorate, slowly!  And your palladium precipitates out.  I'm not sure what form the palladium is in, maybe PdO??

I don't know just how safe the chlorate part of the procedure is, because any contact a chlorate has wit an acid forms chloric acid, which explodes on formation.  So I guess there might be enough water in the solution to keep it stable long enough to react with the PdCl2, who knows?  So I guess just add it very slowly, a little at a time.

It is seductive, way too seductive.             -Eleusis